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    Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    I postulate that no-wield wands with basic Void Mastery do not exist.

    Please prove me wrong. Any counter-example will do. I have found void mastery on void-wield wands before, but never on a no-wield wand. (I don't need a screenshot if it's actually in your possession, but I need more than "I think Bob had one," please.)

    If my postulate is true, then my next question is for the devs: is this a bug or intentional? I have plenty of no-wield wands with War, Life, Item, Creature, and Arcane mastery on them. I also have Void Mastery on cloth hands and feet. I just don't have it on no-wield wands, and I would find such a thing to be useful.
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    for some reason I get the idea that this is intentional by the dev's, im thinking they didnt want to hear a bunch of mages getting bent out of shape over a melee char wand monkeying them with d.o.t's while fighting. or being able to be a hybrid type of fighter without sacraficing your melee attacks some. I cant for the life of me remember ever picking up one or hearing of sombody saying they had one.

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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verb View Post
    im thinking they didnt want to hear a bunch of mages getting bent out of shape over a melee char wand monkeying them with d.o.t's while fighting.
    I'm talking about the basic mastery spell, not the monkey spell. I'm so used to monkey spells being pointless that I hadn't even considered looking for them, so I don't know if they exist or not.
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    just to clarify, by "no-wield wands" you mean wands without war or void req's on them, not wands with level requirements?

    either way, i'll keep an eye out and look through my stuffs.
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    Ones without war or void skill requirements. I personally wouldn't find a 150 level wield void mastery to be especially helpful, but if you find one, it probably means lower ones are available as well. So yes, let me know if you find one with a 150 wield.
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    I've never seen one...
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    A no wield one that is.
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    Haven't seen one, and I agree, I bet it's by design. You rotten users types would find a way to exploit it somehow.

    Out of curiosity, what would/could you do with a wand that gave you Void Mastery Self I?

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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    Some detail has to be lost on me. You mean you have wands that don't require a magic class to be learned or leveled up to wield, but it has their mastery on it? I don't think I've paid enough attention because I didn't realize something like that existed.
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathspawner View Post
    Some detail has to be lost on me. You mean you have wands that don't require a magic class to be learned or leveled up to wield, but it has their mastery on it? I don't think I've paid enough attention because I didn't realize something like that existed.
    Once upon a time I use to use mastery wands to cast low level buffs on myself. You could cast 2s with a level 6 mastery wand. This made a lot of sense for low level melees who were solo players before magic was a major requirement for all builds.
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    Yes it was a staple back in the day. No life melee's trying to buff using Life wands and stam to mana.

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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathspawner View Post
    Some detail has to be lost on me. You mean you have wands that don't require a magic class to be learned or leveled up to wield, but it has their mastery on it? I don't think I've paid enough attention because I didn't realize something like that existed.
    These wands have always existed for the other schools. In fact, at retail, ALL wands with built-in spells had some type of mastery on them (war, life, item, creature, arcane, and mana c). It was a few years until that was nerfed.

    This isn't about getting benefit without training the skill... there's precious little one can do with even a level 8 mastery without the skill at least trained, at least not in attack skills such as void and war. It's about not needing creature buffs in the low levels. I don't do buffbots, and I would find it very useful to have a level 3ish void mastery wand on a reroll. (There are level 3 masteries on explorer wands for the original four schools at 1py value and trivial lore requirements, so I fail to see how a level 3 void loot wand would be any sort of threat.)
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vain View Post
    Yes it was a staple back in the day. No life melee's trying to buff using Life wands and stam to mana.
    Definitely, heh. I used to carry around the comps (the actual hyssop etc.) even after prismatic tapers came out because I would only have a wand to let me cast stam to mana and health to mana 1.

    I of course replaced it wiht the casting stein which I still use to this day, but that's why they saw use. As for Void, I don't think I've ever seen that on a no-wield, unfortunately. I looked through all my stashed junk for my own void I rolled when I came back last year.
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    Re: Please prove me wrong, AC community.

    I have a no-wield wand with Incantation of Spirit Thirst on it.

    Of course it will not activate that particular spell when you wield it, but it's there.

    Wish it did. My life mage would love it.

    I do not recall seeing a no wield void mastery. Will keep an eye out.
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